tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7057268567118204094.post8247643951718092071..comments2023-09-25T07:29:56.175-07:00Comments on Brands Plus Music: Music and the "Gift Economy" 7: Alternative EconomiesJohn Lokenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10389687311107553577noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7057268567118204094.post-6378382378219414392010-11-20T17:12:02.673-08:002010-11-20T17:12:02.673-08:00Thanks for that article. I will add it as an updat...Thanks for that article. I will add it as an update.Suzanne Lainsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15483602086100616975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7057268567118204094.post-50031568516830919922010-11-20T16:49:59.649-08:002010-11-20T16:49:59.649-08:00I strongly support guaranteed basic income for man...I strongly support guaranteed basic income for many reasons. <br /><br />Research shows it's cheaper than paying through many different government programs. <br /><br />People don't in fact work less, except single mothers and boys who stay in school longer. <br />It allows people to contribute without thought of specific reward, which improves creative contributions. <br /><br />Many of the people who did pioneering work on what become the internet and software industry did it at first for free because they had some other job. But only a few capitalized on it, which is simply not fair. Nor is good for everyone else when only a few schemers make all the money.<br /><br />Clearly this kind of approach, a citizen's dividend, would be very helpful for musicians and other creative people.<br /><br />Here's a link to a recent article in a national Canadian newspaper:<br /><br />http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/to-end-poverty-guarantee-everyone-in-canada-20000-a-year-but-are-you-willing-to-trust-the-poor/article1806904/Ruperthttp://www.intuitionjournal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7057268567118204094.post-69432603069945399432010-11-05T19:17:14.408-07:002010-11-05T19:17:14.408-07:00Thanks for your comment. Musicians are trying out ...Thanks for your comment. Musicians are trying out lots of different models and it's always useful to hear what has worked and what hasn't.<br /><br />I will check out your music.Suzanne Lainsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15483602086100616975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7057268567118204094.post-74291292450716977622010-11-05T16:10:21.249-07:002010-11-05T16:10:21.249-07:00I must say that I'm glad I discovered your Blo...I must say that I'm glad I discovered your Blog. Very informative and relevant to what I'm going through as an independent unknown (bordering on secret) musician.<br /><br />When I first started writing and recording my own music I compiled enough songs for a CD then distributed it digitally to generate some extra income. I quickly learned that NOBODY is listening to unknowns much less buying anything they are not familiar with.<br /><br />Spent considerable time marketing and trying to get exposure with very little result. So I gave up on the idea of selling my music.<br />What I started to do was donate to charities using the music. This gained me fans, more listens and donations.<br /><br />I went a step further and offered my music for free. Once I did that my listens and downloads increased dramatically.<br />Some even have voluntarily donated using the name your price option.<br /><br />So while I make no money from music I am getting far more exposure and people are downloading which means my songs are now in circulation. I say secret musician because I can't afford the time to play out live and instead post original song videos to YouTube which is a 24/7 performance on demand method:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/gilsmusic<br /><br />To hear my free music:<br /><br />http://gilsmusic.bandcamp.com<br /><br />Thanks for your excellent Blog here.<br />Followed you on Twitter.Gilliamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17723842352541638167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7057268567118204094.post-20803549553276762332010-10-25T17:20:12.741-07:002010-10-25T17:20:12.741-07:00Yes, I'm not convinced that any sort of true g...Yes, I'm not convinced that any sort of true gift economy is going to work. We have problems enough as it is getting a consensus on basic political issues. What I wanted to do is to put it all into perspective. If you are going to ask musicians and artists to do the giving but no one is giving to them in return, then it's back to day jobs for them.Suzanne Lainsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15483602086100616975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7057268567118204094.post-10052260895081539802010-10-25T14:55:16.366-07:002010-10-25T14:55:16.366-07:00Suzanne,
I read most of this post and the others...Suzanne, <br /><br />I read most of this post and the others and I think the problem with a gift economy is that it ignores human nature, namely our innate competitiveness. Every effort to overcome this has failed in very, very ugly ways, most notably in the Soviet Union, but also North Korea and other outposts of communism, which is essentially what a gift economy would be. How would you handle a person who wanted a little more?<br /><br />In music, there is much debate about how to make money now that nobody seems to want to pay, but the real debate should be about why people aren't paying. In my opinion, they're breaking the law and we're not doing enough about it. But it's an unpopular opinion, I know!<br /><br />JeffJeff Shattuckhttp://www.cerebellumblues.comnoreply@blogger.com